by Min K. Chai, Ryan S. Dean, Eemaan Jalili, and Dean J. Zipser

No matter where you go in Orange County’s legal circles, chances are you’ve crossed paths with Mei Tsang—or at least heard her infectious laugh echoing from across the room. Whether she’s spearheading initiatives at the Orange County Bar Association (OCBA), mentoring young attorneys, or indulging in a new culinary adventure, Mei is a force of nature who connects people as effortlessly as she orders from a menu.

But before we spill the tea about Mei, here’s an amuse-bouche of her life: Born in China, Mei immigrated to Indiana at the age of 13. Her journey was marked by constant movement—living in more than 30 places before finally finding her home in Orange County in 2006. Along the way, Mei earned her undergraduate degree from Purdue University and her law degree from the University of Illinois, with her career taking her to vibrant cities like London, Washington, D.C., St. Louis, Chicago, and Los Angeles. Orange County, however, is where Mei truly planted her roots. She credits the OCBA with helping her build a professional community, starting with the IP & Technology Section, which she chaired for three years. With the encouragement of OCBA leaders, she ran for the Board and Secretary in 2016. She has been a dedicated leader within the organization ever since, shaping her nearly decade-long commitment to the legal community. Mei’s family is at the heart of her journey. She and her husband, Steve Brown, are raising two spirited sons, Sam and James, who keep life as dynamic as their mom’s career.

As she steps into the role of President of the OCBA, we—Min K. Chai (MC), Dean J. Zipser (DZ), Ryan Dean (RD), and Eemaan Jalili (EJ)—gathered around a table (with plenty of food, of course, as this is about Mei) to dish about her in the style of a podcast. Together, we share our stories and insights about our friend and colleague, offering a flavorful glimpse into what makes Mei the incredible leader she is.

Q1: How did you first meet Mei?
(MC): I met Mei through Todd Friedland in 2013. He introduced us as his two “favorite Asian ladies.” I thought, “What the heck? Two Asians connected through a white guy?” We grabbed lunch at the Spectrum and bonded over noodles—one of her favorite foods. It turned out to be one of the best introductions ever. So, thank you, Todd!
(DZ): That’s hilarious, Min! I heard about Mei through OCBA committees as a future leader. Before I could reach out, Mei contacted me to discuss the OCBA and a possible board seat. Lesson one: Mei is proactive and jumps on opportunities immediately. We met, and the rest, as they say, is history. We became friends, developed a mentor-mentee relationship, and ultimately became law partners when she joined our firm.
(RD): I can attest to her proactivity! I first interviewed with Mei for a clerk position during my second year of law school. I wasn’t offered the job but received invaluable feedback. I kept in touch, and the following year, while job hunting, I reached out to her. She invited me for another interview. This time she hired me, and we’ve been together ever since. Her willingness to mentor young attorneys speaks volumes about her character.
(EJ): Honestly, I can’t recall our exact first meeting because it felt like I’d always known her. Probably at an OCBA event a few years ago, likely related to diversity and inclusion—something we both care deeply about. From then on, she’s felt like family—like bumping into a cousin you’ve known your whole life.

Q2: What’s something people might not know about Mei?
(MC): Mei is involved in so many things—more than we can count. You’d think she never sleeps more than 30 minutes, but she’s fueled by a natural high. While she’s been the OCBA’s poster child, she’s also deeply involved with local affiliate bars like the Orange County Asian American Bar Association and the Orange County Women Lawyers Association. She’s just been awarded “Attorney of the Year” by OCWLA—which she truly deserves. But Mei never seeks accolades; she does it because she can.
(DZ): Exactly, Min. Many see only one facet of Mei—whether it’s the leader, the attorney, the partner, or something else—but she has incredible breadth. She’s equally comfortable talking to students or sophisticated clients about legal issues, business matters, or just about any other subject. Her strategic thinking has been invaluable to our clients.
(RD): Don’t forget how deeply she cares about people. She’s known for connecting with others but also takes time to check in—asking about appointments, how your kids are feeling, or simply how your day is going. Her empathy shines in every interaction. It’s this balance of being outgoing and a thoughtful listener that makes her special.
(EJ): Absolutely. Mei juggles many roles effortlessly, including being a mom to her two amazing boys. Both have inherited her and her husband’s sense of humor—the eldest is comedic, the youngest an avid dancer at OCSA. Being a mom is incredibly important to her, and it shows in every interaction. That nurturing quality makes you feel like family when you’re with her.

Q3: If Mei weren’t a lawyer, what would she do?
(MC): Easy—two words: “Ugly Dumpling” (food truck concept). Mei always brainstorms business ideas, and this is her favorite. She makes dumplings for all occasions—birthdays, holidays, rainy days, prom nights—you name it. She might have a separate fridge just for dumplings! If we started a food truck selling them, she’d be spreading joy one city at a time.
(DZ): When you’re talking about dumplings, I need to give Mei’s mom a shout-out here—not just for being a wonderful and caring person herself, but because she makes amazing dumplings (that Mei will share with us in the office). And, while the food truck idea fits, I see another possibility. Her husband, Steve, is a talented graphic designer, but Mei could give him a run for his money. She has a keen eye for design and could thrive in a creative field, perhaps leading a marketing firm.
(RD): Min and Dean, you’ve both got something there. But what about being a photographer? When Mei is around, I can guarantee she’ll be taking and facilitating pictures of those around her. She has a library of pictures approaching 100,000.
(EJ): You all make great points, but I think she’d be in a healing profession. Her mom is an acupuncturist, and that nurturing energy flows through her. I could see Mei as an acupuncturist or doctor—continuing to guide and help others.

Q4: How does Mei stay curious in her role?
(MC): She might suffer from FOMO (don’t tell her I said that), but seriously, she’s everywhere! A true extrovert, she thrives on socializing and meaningful connections. She finds people from all walks of life intriguing. Like a modern matchmaker, she connects people and creates synergy by leveraging their strengths. She has a knack for spotting talents and bringing out people’s potential. She’s encouraged me to do things I thought I’d never dare to do.
(DZ): Absolutely, Min. Mei’s vast network fuels her curiosity, and vice-versa. She actively seeks new perspectives, keeping her engaged and forward-thinking. Her curiosity isn’t just about learning, but about understanding people and building bridges. This will serve her and the OCBA well.
(RD): Agreed. She stays curious through her connections. She learns by truly listening. Few remember the minute details you share and ask about them weeks later. Her genuine interest in others keeps her engaged in all aspects of her role. And let’s remember: Mei came to the United States at thirteen knowing very little English. She’s passed three bar exams, practiced law in two states, and has adapted to Orange County like a native.
(EJ): Exactly. And by getting involved. New or innovative ideas don’t scare her—they excite her. While many attorneys focus on critiquing or refining, Mei’s approach is different. She’s like a builder or artist, asking, “How can this make the world better?” Her curiosity is about creating and improving, not just challenging the status quo.

Q5: What’s Mei’s favorite way to connect with others?
(MC): Food—hands down! For Mei, you need to be an eater. To reach the next level with her, you break bread together. If you don’t eat, you can’t be friends with Mei. We bonded over Korean BBQ, ordering literally everything off the menu. She does it right, even befriending the servers to get extra dishes. As I recall, we left with nori on our faces and memories of a hilarious night.
(DZ): I’m noticing it’s unfair that Min goes first—she takes all my answers! But yes, we’re all on the same page. And anyone dining with Mei won’t leave hungry—there’s always plenty left over. Food is her universal language for connection.
(RD): Absolutely. Mei loves connecting over food. After everyone is seated, she’s ready to capture the moment with a photo, preserving memories. It’s about the shared experience and building relationships.
(EJ): Exactly! For us, it’s shabu-shabu or hot pot. If there were a 24-hour place, we’d definitely be there for a late-night craving. Sharing food and enjoying each other’s company is how she builds lasting connections.

Q6: What’s a memorable moment you’ve shared with Mei?
(MC): So many, but two stand out: going to the New Kids on the Block concert in ’80s attire and buying In-N-Out burgers for singer Stephen Sanchez and his staff after their concert at midnight. Mei’s spontaneity makes every moment memorable.
(DZ): One of my most memorable moments was when she joined our firm. She introduced a new practice area and brought fresh energy—along with a larger food budget! Looking ahead, I know that another memorable moment will be when I’m there to see Mei sworn in as OCBA President.
(RD): Over seventeen years, there are many memories, but joining Umberg Zipser definitely tops the list. Building a new practice area wasn’t easy, but sticking together ensured success. Second place goes to Mei’s 40th birthday party—that was quite an event!
(EJ): For me, it was realizing we both enjoy the same random, relaxing TikTok videos of artisans making handmade goods. We laughed about finding joy in quiet, artisanal moments amid busy lives. These videos start with billowing clouds, then peaceful puppies, and then pan to someone making incense. Now, whenever I see one, I laugh and think, “I have to send this to Mei” for a midday spa moment.

Q7: What advice from Mei has stayed with you?
(MC): As middle-aged working moms and eldest daughters of first-gen parents, we often care for everyone else. Her advice was, “You need to prioritize yourself and have some fun. It’s okay to do that.” She’s right—we have to take care of ourselves.
(DZ): Right, Min. On a substantive level, I marvel at how she immediately gains client trust and support, and how multi-faceted she is in her practice. She often calls herself a “business strategist.” I’m hoping it all rubs off on me someday. On a personal level, Mei offers great advice—even though I’m supposed to be the mentor. Like you, Min, she’s encouraged me to adjust my priorities and commitments. Though I’m not always successful, she hasn’t given up on me.
(RD): Uh-oh, do I see a pattern? Do attorneys struggle with work-life balance? Mei advises taking care of yourself and not being afraid to rely on others. She’s always there to help when needed, embodying her own advice. I can also attest to her great leadership skills. She is inclusive and creates enthusiasm with those she interacts.
(EJ): Oh, yes—agree to agree! For me, like many, I can over-analyze interactions. Mei taught me not to take things personally and to meet people where they are. She emphasized that each interaction is shared space, and can be an enriching exchange regardless of the outcome.

Q8: What is your one prediction for her Presidential Year?
(MC): I wouldn’t be surprised if she pulls off a Cirque du Soleil–type gala with all the glitter and glam—and an all-you-can-eat noodle and dumpling bar!
(DZ): Mei has an ability to unify people she’s with, and I’m sure we’ll see her do that as our OCBA President. I also expect Mei to question some OCBA traditions, looking to spice up events and strengthen the bonds in our community.
(RD): Mei will shake things up in a good way. The food will be better and more plentiful. She’s willing to question outdated practices and embrace change to improve things for everyone.
(EJ): I agree, Ryan. I’m passionate about artificial intelligence, and Mei shares this. We’ve even worked on AI initiatives in the legal field. I predict, under her leadership, this year will be pivotal as the OCBA engages with the monumental changes AI will bring to law.

As we wrapped up our “feast” of stories, it became clear that Mei is more than just a colleague or a leader—she’s the glue that brings people together . . . often over a great meal. Her ability to connect, inspire, and nurture those around her is as natural as her love for dumplings. Whether she’s planning the next big event, mentoring a young attorney, or simply sharing a laugh over shabu-shabu, Mei embodies the spirit of community that makes the OCBA thrive.

So, here’s to Mei—a leader with heart, a connector of souls, and perhaps a future food truck mogul. We’re excited to see what flavors she brings to the OCBA this year, and we can’t wait to savor all that’s to come under her presidency.

Min K. Chai is the founder of MKC Law and can be reached at mchai@mkc-law.com. Ryan S. Dean is a partner of Mei’s at Umberg/Zipser LLP and can be reached at rdean@umbergzipser.com. Eemaan Jalili is the founder of Jalili Law and AICounsel.law, and a mentee of Mei, and can be contacted at eemaan@jalili.law. All were honored to introduce your new, dynamic OCBA President. Dean J. Zipser served as the 2005 OCBA President, is a founding partner of Umberg/Zipser LLP, and has been a mentor to Mei. He can be contacted at dzipser@umbergzipser.com.